tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post7931181050558192135..comments2023-10-08T05:17:02.015-07:00Comments on My World....: Men will be men! But when did they turn into animals?Ghatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09827871332186585302noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-87160584838327312042013-01-09T21:22:17.816-08:002013-01-09T21:22:17.816-08:00Nisha Sharma.....tasting her own spit.....what an ...Nisha Sharma.....tasting her own spit.....what an irony.....epic case of mis-use of gender biased laws :-)....tit for tat.<br /> <br />kyonki saaas bhi kabhi bahu thi.<br /> <br />100 main se 99 be-imaan, hamare desh main biwiyaan pahalwaan :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-45261204686780653392013-01-09T21:18:27.686-08:002013-01-09T21:18:27.686-08:00निशा शर्मा के खिलाफ दहेज उत्पीड़न का केस
http://n...निशा शर्मा के खिलाफ दहेज उत्पीड़न का केस<br /><br />http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/dowry-case-against-nisha-sharma/articleshow/17958708.cms<br /><br />दहेज के खिलाफ आवाज उठाकर और बरात लौटाकर निशा शर्मा ने 10 साल पहले सुर्खियां बटोरी थीं। अब वही दहेज के केस में फंस गई है। उनकी भाभी मनीषा के परिजनों ने पानीपत के समालखा थाने में उसके समेत परिजनों के खिलाफ दहेज उत्पीड़न समेत अनेक धाराओं में एफआईआर दर्ज करवाई है। इस मामले मंे निशा के भाई को पुलिस ने रेड डालकर 8 जनवरी को गिरफ्तार भी कर लिया है।<br /><br />मनीषा के पिता विजय शर्मा की ओर से दर्ज करवाई गई एफआईआर के अनुसार, उन्होंने करीब 3 साल पहले अपनी बेटी की शादी सेक्टर-61 निवासी ज्ञानेश्वर शर्मा से की थी। इस शादी से उन्हें एक बच्चा भी हुआ। एफआईआर के मुताबिक, मनीषा के ससुर डी. डी. शर्मा, सास हेमलता शर्मा, पति ज्ञानेश्वर शर्मा और ननद निशा शर्मा ने 12 लाख रुपये दहेज मांगा और न ला पाने पर उसके साथ मारपीट शुरू कर दी। कई बार उन्होंने उन्हें समझाने की कोशिश भी की लेकिन उन पर कोई असर नहीं हुआ। आरोप है कि पिछले साल ठंड मंे उन्होंने स्वेटर उतरवाकर मनीषा से कई बार पूरे घर में पोंछा लगवाया और मना करने पर मारपीट की।<br /><br />एफआईआर में कहा गया है कि पिछले साल मामला यहां तक बढ़ा कि मनीषा के ससुरालियों ने उसे घर से निकाल दिया। इसके बाद से वह समालखा में रहने को मजबूर हैं। अब वे मनीषा को जबरन तलाक देकर अपने बेटे ज्ञानेश्वर की दूसरी शादी कराने की योजना बना रहे हैं। इस मामले में उनकी तहरीर पर पुलिस ने निशा शर्मा समेत चारों ससुरालियों के खिलाफ धारा 498ए (स्त्री के साथ ससुरालियों द्वारा क्रूरता करना), 506 (जान से मारने की धमकी देना), 504 (गालीगलौज करना), 406 (शादी में दिए सामानों पर कब्जा करना) के आरोप में नामजद मुकदमा दर्ज कर लिया है। मुकदमे के बाद समालखा पुलिस ने 8 जनवरी को नोएडा में रेड डालकर मनीषा के पति ज्ञानेश्वर शर्मा को अरेस्ट कर लिया। उनके ससुर डी. डी. शर्मा, सास हेमलता शर्मा और ननद निशा शर्मा को फरार बताया जा रहा है। पुलिस उनकी गिरफ्तारी का प्रयास कर रही है।Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-72137651302771886352013-01-08T21:46:16.757-08:002013-01-08T21:46:16.757-08:00hi Ghata....that was my first reaction that why su...hi Ghata....that was my first reaction that why suddenly every one has woken up to this case of rape...probably coz it was too monstrous to keep silent about but what about all the other rape cases happening in the country where probably the woman doesn't even get a chance to report the incident!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10073971437436995242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-25437474633541007002013-01-07T03:27:27.917-08:002013-01-07T03:27:27.917-08:00A rape is a rape, the rape law should apply to all...A rape is a rape, the rape law should apply to all.<br />>> That is what we are demanding ! Currently rape law has some loop-holes and is not covering women. Even adultery treats women as an abettor and does no punish her so going by this logic if a husband catch his wife in bed with her boyfriend then that poor husband can file adultery only on wife's boyfriend but not on his adulterous wife. Domestic violence happens on men too but a poor husband cannot even go to take shelter under law as there is no provision. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-337248524110468532013-01-04T10:01:09.329-08:002013-01-04T10:01:09.329-08:00I hope 2012 marks a beginning of a change in menta...I hope 2012 marks a beginning of a change in mentality... its so sad that it took such a shock for all of us wake up and acknowledge this evil exists and something needs to be done about it.. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-53523492786757402572013-01-04T03:47:36.746-08:002013-01-04T03:47:36.746-08:00PS: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/paras-bhasin...PS: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/paras-bhasin-death-train-driver-tells-police-he-ran-over-man/1000730<br />It was confirmed as a suicide by the CBI with witness testimony. I'm sorry and my prayers are with the man and every victim of injustice. I'm sure you'll now post another case. Honestly, am done. I cannot explain the intent of this post or comments any better. If it didn't get communicated so far, then it won't get clearer regardless of what we say. It would only be a waste of everyone's time. <a href="https://fictionpies.com">Deepa from FictionPies</a>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08190726711949079567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-53468774640321401732013-01-04T03:29:47.145-08:002013-01-04T03:29:47.145-08:001. I believe this is the incident you're talki...1. I believe this is the incident you're talking about. Might want to have a read here. http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Paras-Bhasin-s-body-was-not-hacked-claim-police/Article1-924663.aspx<br />The investigation is still on, so I won't comment on it. <br /><br />2. You say "'men' are expected to exercise restraint and never pour their heart out. Moreover, it would make them an object of ridicule if they ever admit to being abused by women since society (& suprisingly not just Indian) finds it difficult to ascribe to the notion of 'a woman oppressing a man'." Who's fed this expectation Prabhat? It's the same patriarchal society. Men who are victims because of such expectations are also being opressed because of this very patriarchal society. We have the same enemy and yet you point fingers at the women for their fault. Even the mother who raises her son in that way (in case you blame the mother because she's a women) is because of this upbringing - the fact that in the society men are 'expected' to. <br /><br />3. It is not only about teaching men not to rape. It is also about teaching daughters not to put up with injustice. Its also about teaching sons to stop injustice if they see it happening. We're all guilty of being mute bystanders. Has no one ever made lewd remarks on a girl/boy/child around you? If it has happened, have you been able to speak up? But girls speak and they are told to shut up. The upbringing needs to happen both ways. But then we have ministers like BJP senior leader talking about "if women cross the Laksham Rekha they will be subject to Ravan haran'. That's the upbringing that needs to change. <br /><br />4. Yes, it is wrong to make an entire society representative. I feel bad for the good men too and I know there are many. But they're paying the cost of the sins of the other bad men. Instead of blaming the women, we should all be standing against the injustice meted out. <br /><br />5. The American incident involved a shooter with mental disorders and guns. Totally different. Are we saying every rapist has a mental disorder? That's pretty convenient then isn't it?<br /><br />6. Don't tell me guys don't discuss a girl's figure. But the girls you saw, in your words "discussing the rather intimate details of a gym-fit guy's anatomy who just got down a stop ago and how they lusted after him.". Not whistling or rubbing themselves against him or touching him did they? Your own words not mine. You wanted neutral. That is neutral. <br /><br />7. If the social reaction to a man walking nude at 3 PM is to be arrested or stoned, all we ask is that the social reaction to a women walking nude at 3 PM also be the same - arrested or stoned. Arrest would be the legal way to do it - man or woman. Stoning would be barbaric - but if that's what it is for a man, then so be it for a woman. Gender neutral laws right? Both he and she shouldn't get raped. As simple as that.<br /><br />Not making interpretation or assumption. For good measure, am done. <a href="https://fictionpies.com">Deepa from FictionPies</a>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08190726711949079567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-65121114535195542352013-01-04T03:12:50.178-08:002013-01-04T03:12:50.178-08:00@ Deepa
In continuation of my reply,
our comment...<br />@ Deepa<br /><br />In continuation of my reply,<br /><br />our comment here about the 'typical Indian male psyche' doesn't go down so well with other men and women too. It might please the so-called 'feminists' or a few others. It is in the same league as comments from a few which go like 'we need to teach our sons not to assault......'.<br />I am fine as long as such commentors are speaking exclusively about their very own bilogical/adopted 'sons' (they know them better). Else I have serious issues with regard to such comments because they have no right to talk about a large no. of other Indian sons who would never ever think of committing such perverted acts.<br />It's wrong to paint an entire society as evil and talk disparagingly about 'all/most of the men of our society' as criminals.<br /><br />The men involved in this crime & other crimes of similar nature against women don't speak & can never speak about the entire Indian male psyche & populace.<br />Yes, Indian society like many other Asian societies is conservative and so it also teaches us that there is nothing more perverted and wrong then violating a woman.<br /><br />The recent attack by the a young American kids massacring several school kids<br />should make the entire American society say that we need to teach our sons........ assuming the same model and logic we have adopted here after this incident.<br />Stop stereotyping. Once should always avoid it.<br /><br />Speaking of public buses, I as a university student in Delhi had seen and often heard many girls (no, I didn't eavesdrop, I was forced to listen to their conversations since they didn't know the art of having polite conversations at a low tone in public places) discussing the rather intimate details of a gym-fit guy's anatomy who just got down a stop ago and how they lusted after him.<br />Oh! If you think that Indian girls can't do that, you are wrong.<br />Now, should I make an assumption about today's Indian female psyche based on such incidents?<br /><br />Please don't say that is hardly a problem since men in general/most of the men especially Indian love getting lustful gazes from women if at all they get any; most of the men seek & enjoy amorous attention from female (and if some men don't, then those me are weird or their orientation is questionable)<br /> <br />while on the other hand, all/ most of the females esp. Indian want to shield themselves from the roving male eye.<br /><br />Kindly don't connect the above statement to the recent incident in some wrong way because I am in no way implying that the victim brought it upon herself. So, make any such interpretation at your own risk and don't hold me accountable for such thoughts & words that you put to them would be entirely yours.<br /><br />Prabhatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-75000055778589154702013-01-04T03:10:46.301-08:002013-01-04T03:10:46.301-08:00@ deepa
I am not the one sensationalizing it beca...@ deepa<br /><br />I am not the one sensationalizing it because it I don' consider any brutal crime to be a news item.<br /><br />You seem to have misunderstood my comment, I didn't you to blame women 'only' if they are committing crimes, but women TOO (along with men) if they are committing crimes wherein the victim could be a woman or a man.<br /><br />Yes, statistically, there may be more documented cases of crimes against 'women' but we only need to look below the surface to realise that in our society, there are many men who are subjected to crimes by the so-called weaker sex - women.<br />If women are expected to suffer in silence, it's the men too who do that, more so if they have been subjected to crimes by women. It is happening all over in India. <br />It's just that it isn't brought to forefront because in India and elsewhere, 'men' are expected to exercise restraint and never pour their heart out. Moreover, it would make them an object of ridicule if they ever admit to being abused by women since society (& suprisingly not just Indian) finds it difficult to ascribe to the notion of 'a woman oppressing a man'.<br /><br />And, it's not the larger number (well, that's debatable too as I stated earlier) of crimes against women that draw the attention of the media, NGO's or may be members of general public, but the fact that it involves a woman as the victim.<br />Nothing wrong in highlighting their apathy and demanding justice, but to keep mum when brutal incidents of such nature happen to men, certainly is.<br />A recent incident involving a 23 year old guy whose body (dismembered into 16 pieces) on the railway tracks in Delhi highlights this issue. The main culprit in this case was suspected to be his girlfriend's family (suprisingly, the girl was spared). I would thank the press if you are able to recall this incident, at least it bothered to give it a mention once/twice in their columns. <br />I expected a whole debate on this issue by several media channels for this is quite gruesome. But then, it disappeared into oblivion and no one cared to discuss about it since it involved a man. Surprisingly, none of women's rights organisations and the media too cried foul with statements 'how unsafe Indian men are in a city like Delhi' and how a girl/girl's family is capable of committing a horrific crime in this so-called 'patriarchal' set-up (the term which recently has become a favorite of many and has been been heavily exploited to paint the devious nature of our society and how each & every crime against women can so easily be attributed to it) <br />It doesn't end here. I am very sure if we had reversed the situation in this railway tracks case, many would have cried foul over how unsafe the Indian women are and how patriarchy bestows men (the boyfriends) & their families with unlimited power (to even murder an innocent girl)<br />There's no denying that the boyfriend and his family would have been immediately arrested by the police, had the girl's body been found. <br /><br />What happened to the women's rights activists then? All of a sudden, they turned numb. They might argue that it's a matter doesn't relate to them and so they won't interfere. I am fine with their 'policy', but they have no right to state that that women are the only ones are are 'unsafe' or 'tortured' and everytime put on the blame to the patriarchal set-up.<br />How convenient it is for them.<br /><br /><br />Prabhatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-58610610337692688822013-01-04T01:11:59.462-08:002013-01-04T01:11:59.462-08:00You know Aekta and Ghata, any kind of reservation ...You know Aekta and Ghata, any kind of reservation bothers me. Be it for women or on the basis of caste. The only thing I am for is the disabled - because they do have to struggle even in the present. The ones on caste - are because their forefathers struggled. If there are problems for the ones from lower castes (hate even using that word) then give them equal opportunity. Help them financially if finances are a problem. That way it puts them at par with others. Beyond that it should be on the basis of merit for them just as it is for every one else. As for gender, here's an article I wrote where we seemed to be losing humanity in the fight for reservations/equality. Here's the <a href="http://deepa-duraisamy.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/a-lesson-in-humility.html" rel="nofollow">link.</a> If the intent is instead about preventing eve teasing and harassment then again, the persons indulging in such activities should be punished. Reservations only acknowledge that a side is weak and help in pulling it down further. If at all in the interim, to help with eve teasing and such until law and order becomes squeaky clean, they want to give reservations - then they should just start womens' only buses which would be much safer. See my other post here which talks about how reservations can cause a much stronger divide and distrust for genders against each other. Link <a href="http://deepa-duraisamy.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/womens-day-really.html" rel="nofollow">here.</a><a href="https://fictionpies.com">Deepa from FictionPies</a>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08190726711949079567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-45284514089321678152013-01-04T00:37:08.897-08:002013-01-04T00:37:08.897-08:00Only if people/emn understood that! Thanks indiatv...Only if people/emn understood that! Thanks indiatvandmovie for the support. Ghatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09827871332186585302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-22491933243349820722013-01-04T00:32:04.959-08:002013-01-04T00:32:04.959-08:00Thanks a lot IHM for getting the word around!Thanks a lot IHM for getting the word around!Ghatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09827871332186585302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-17563715903391917472013-01-04T00:30:46.703-08:002013-01-04T00:30:46.703-08:00Agree Nishant.Agree Nishant.Ghatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09827871332186585302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-79627251412051677342013-01-04T00:30:02.133-08:002013-01-04T00:30:02.133-08:00Good God. The debate is not about who needs to sup...Good God. The debate is not about who needs to support whom. I was only responding to the comment which asked me to support. You don't see me asking you to support do you? The debate is about crime happening which it shouldn't. In this case Ghata had written about the bus rape, which shouldn't have happened. In the DIL case, do you see me condoning it? See my other comments. I actually condemn it. I condemn and despise women too who commit such acts. You ask me to blame women committing crimes, I ask you and everyone to blame men and women who commit crimes. Period. Stop making it a sensational topic. The simple fact of the matter is people who commit crimes shouldn't, and people who stand up and watch crime happening should speak up. Statistically crimes against women show up higher than crimes against women, so there's bound to be more focus on that - not just from me or Ghata, from anybody - be it the news, politics, men, women - because the strength in numbers concept comes in. The more the number of crimes - the more focus it will draw.<a href="https://fictionpies.com">Deepa from FictionPies</a>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08190726711949079567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-44183829586248211222013-01-04T00:20:44.283-08:002013-01-04T00:20:44.283-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.<a href="https://fictionpies.com">Deepa from FictionPies</a>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08190726711949079567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-10412755962685938172013-01-04T00:18:47.476-08:002013-01-04T00:18:47.476-08:00Kudos Deepa. I am sure none of these "men&quo...Kudos Deepa. I am sure none of these "men" would dare to do that!Ghatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09827871332186585302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-90926310932162538602013-01-04T00:18:14.876-08:002013-01-04T00:18:14.876-08:00typo
............is also perpetrated by several *...typo<br /><br />............is also perpetrated by several ****women in today's societyPrabhatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-86699463805344918932013-01-04T00:15:26.309-08:002013-01-04T00:15:26.309-08:00'But why look to us to do that? Why not start ...'But why look to us to do that? Why not start the protests yourself if you really believe in the cause.'<br /><br />@ Deepa<br /><br />Obviously, men can fight their own battle. No problem with that.<br />But, then why do you seek & garner support from men in form of protesters for fighting this brutal crime. <br />Men should fend for themselves. Right. If this is your life's mantra & this is what you believe, then women should also fight their own battle.<br /><br />And, mind you, I have stated your belief (the one above) here and I am not expressing mine.<br /><br />And, I love the way you turned a blind eye towards the article mentioned about the monstrous DIL and completely ignored.<br />You may offer an excuse saying that this was totally unrelated but it isn't because you feel that it's the women only who are victims in our society or their numbers far outweigh those of men and hence, that article had to be highlighted.<br /><br />I am glad that a guy did it (copied the article here)<br /><br />The least you could have done was acknowledge how gruesome was the act perpetrated by the woman on her husband even if not as vociferously as you have done for the poor girl (since you seem to have biased opinions)on other forums.<br /><br />Remember that I am no way stating that (the girl on the bus) wasn't a brutal crime, it obviously is, but to ignore a crime against several men(which surely can and is perpetrated by several men in today's society) is very wrong and insensitive.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Prabhatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-52137360950713011232013-01-03T22:20:12.102-08:002013-01-03T22:20:12.102-08:00I came here through IHM's blog, and I am appal...I came here through IHM's blog, and I am appaled by the lack of sensitivity that is shown by few commentors! <br />I wish we could stop pointing fingers at OTHERS and start pointing fingers at OURSELVES and stand up for people who are being harrased in public be it male/female or child.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-35302515314039483402013-01-03T19:11:59.317-08:002013-01-03T19:11:59.317-08:00Responded here,
http://indianhomemaker.wordpress....Responded here, <br /><a href="http://indianhomemaker.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/a-protected-generation-of-women-like-my-grand-mothers-did-not-seek-equal-rights/" rel="nofollow">http://indianhomemaker.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/a-protected-generation-of-women-like-my-grand-mothers-did-not-seek-equal-rights/</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-22096764595791773052013-01-03T05:47:09.847-08:002013-01-03T05:47:09.847-08:00I agree with all your points mentioned in the arti...I agree with all your points mentioned in the article. Once there was a time when women where praise a god in the country but now the time has changed, they are tease, tortured everywhere. I personally think that today is the time to fight against all this crimes for the safety of mother, wife, sister and every women around you.Nishant Patelhttp://www.trycreate.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-75835852304665497082013-01-02T20:05:54.490-08:002013-01-02T20:05:54.490-08:00I'm confused. You don't see me telling you...I'm confused. You don't see me telling you to take to the roads for women, you don't see me asking you to protest for women or join an NGO that fights crimes against women do you? Then why turn back and point the finger at me? You're the one who raked up the fight about crimes against men, you're the one who believes in it. I believe it happens too but I believe that crimes against women are more rampant. My actions are decided by what I believe in, so should yours. It's that simple. Also, why would rape laws be gender biased? A rape is a rape, the rape law should apply to all. <a href="https://fictionpies.com">Deepa from FictionPies</a>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08190726711949079567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-202333622011710822013-01-02T19:50:07.078-08:002013-01-02T19:50:07.078-08:00Yes, there are crimes against men too, nobody'...Yes, there are crimes against men too, nobody's saying we wont protest those<br />>> Thanks, unlike Ghata, you atleast acknowledges.<br />But why look to us to do that?<br />>> In that gang rape protest or any other protest supporting women, you can find more >>men standing than women. Stop being so selfish and stand got your brother, father's >>rights as well.<br />Why not start the protests yourself if you really believe in the cause?<br />>> We have 40 NGO supporting men for their rights. You can search on web, MRA, SIFF, >>DAMAN, SFF<br />And FYI, highlighting another cause doesn't make the previous one any less important.<br />>> Apt. statement. Similar way, more crime are happening against women does not make >>you ignoring crime against men and promoting gender biased laws. I hope I have answered you<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-42554061608933097592013-01-02T14:57:50.744-08:002013-01-02T14:57:50.744-08:00Yes, there are women who take advantage of laws. S...Yes, there are women who take advantage of laws. Shame on those women. We despise them too. But with all due respect, just because they are wrong doesn't make these men right. I don't understand your logic. The issue here is about the men who are raping, the mentality leading them to rape and the men and women protesting against them. What is the point of bringing in another topic here? Why dont you start a different thread on your blog for that one?<a href="https://fictionpies.com">Deepa from FictionPies</a>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08190726711949079567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3146178816838612718.post-13722245958559762492013-01-02T14:53:54.672-08:002013-01-02T14:53:54.672-08:00Exactly the typical Indian man's mentality eve...Exactly the typical Indian man's mentality everyone's talking about. No denying that there are certain things like physical strength, stamina etc where women are weak. That's the only law of nature. Everything else is man made. This is where the role of a supportive (supporting does not mean hen-pecked - real men would know the difference) husband comes in, but I won't even try to talk about it. Because that would be akin to bashing my head against a wall - so I'll save my energy!<a href="https://fictionpies.com">Deepa from FictionPies</a>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08190726711949079567noreply@blogger.com